By: trottiegolf | Duration: 00:18:19
Video Description
Golf shafts can certainly be an intimidating subject.
For this Friday onion drop I’ve visited the KBS Experience in Carlsbad and brought the resident club fitter David Anderson onboard to assist. Follow along as we reveal an easy to follow road map that will expand your knowledge on the key components when it comes to choosing the right shafts for your game.
There isn’t a player type out there that Dave and myself haven’t encountered and our wide scope means there’s something in this content for all. We deep dive into feel and how that can impact players of certain ages V’s time playing the game and when should you genuinely look to seek out a shaft fitting.
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Trottie please help.
I have had poor fitting experience. Need real help. Got fit to KBS tour 120g S flex.
7 iron I’m right around 90mph club head speed ball speed120. Previously played project x rifle 6.0 and carried it
170.Now with these new shafts l'm only carry 155 160.Apexing at 135-140' launch at 24 degree. I'm assuming I'm just getting to high ball flight and loosing distance? Is it me and my swing or is shaft? Thank you!
If I wanted to get loft, lie, and shaft fitted for my irons (and keep the iron heads) what's a good ballpark on price for that ?
I love my C-tapers. Played stock stiff shafts for so long early in my days, got fitted into C-tapers went from about a 15 to a 9 handicap in one season. Great stuff here!
To all club builders and to all club retailers, if everybody talked in CPM life would be much easier . And much less mistakes in buying the wrong shafts.
I play a +1 shaft stiff flex. Should I consider different shafts for different clubs? Maybe my long irons, should I get something with less spin to get more run out from vs my short irons that I need to stop?
Dang! Maybe I don’t need my 130x’s 🥹
Hello. Like your video. I am 60 years old and play off 10 handicap. What shaft should I be looking at if I want a light shaft and the head to be a little heavier. I get 230 at most on my driver. Playing tm m6 d type driver. I need shafts for my irons.
What a waste…
Trottie, would a heavier shaft help to slows my right hand that closes the face ? Currently in a 6.5 125g
Trottie said arm length is proportional to height. Not necessarily. Some people have gorilla arms (me) and some T-Rex arms. How would you find the correct shaft length for outliers?
What's it mean to beak 90?
I think the notes about when to get fit and get a fit checked was very interesting. I do not, and I bet many other amateurs do not, know when to reevaluate equipment choices.
Thanks for the video
I've good success using KBS Tour Lite 105S in my W D7Forged irons. My elbow injuries are now taking their toll and I'm trying to find out what the graphite equivalent is and how they get spec'ed with irons. Even a starting point on the most like for like graphite iron shaft to this KBS steel shaft would help.
What a absolute load of crap! How is none of this common knowledge? So I've been trying to adjust my swing for about 5 years just because I don't know this knowledge this information. Yet this information is never actually put out and nobody actually makes anything plain. I go to Fitters I go to Gulf coaches everything else you can think of yet none of this information is actually put out there why?
Super helpful. Thx.
Why do Americans say 'get fit' when it's 'get fitted' for golf clubs. The gym is the place to get fit. Just saying…
I love stiff shaft with big woods
Im probably wrong.. But i thougt the tour v was stiffer at the tip for lower spin and tight dispersion.. He said here tour shafts are stiffer in the grip for more spin. Or have i just completely misunderstood. 🤷♂️😁😂
Hi Guys . Just quick question I would like your thoughts on please . If You were looking at lighter shafts for the senior player say an 85 gram steel would gravitate to a lighter swing weight in the build . Say C8 to D0 Or just go on the player feed back ..?
It's amazing you mentioned the weight rule of thumb in the beginning. Just got a new set of irons and went from a 105 to a 120 in the new set, and sure enough it has reduced my leftward miss by a substantial amount.
Yeah I'm looking to beak 90
Trottie, Merry Christmas to you from Scotland when it comes. Quick question and I know it will be difficult to answer. Play KBS Tgi 80 in irons, however looking to go to graphite in wedges from a dg spinner 115. Any suggestions or differences between mmt, steel fibre, kbs, Ust graphite wedge shafts or any alternative advice
Where r located and how much u charge?I'm 6ft 6in 275lbs 61yrs old with a 71club head speed and suggestions please help
Basically if your having lessons and trying to change your swing because all your good connecting shots go left or go right , theres a very good chance its not you its your shafts .
And most importantly the weight of those shafts.
Tiny variations in shaft weight make huge differences to your subconscious and in turn your natural swing tendency’s , therefore , consistency is found in weight first .
Bend profile or flex usually follows weight .
Get fitted for weight and bin the lessons .
Where can you go to get a shaft fitting?
If i cut my tour lite s taper 3/4 inch how many grams will that lower shaft weight
Does handedness change the shaft needed? I know that shafts have different kick points and the torque from the golf head would be directionally different from a right handed player to left handed.
The best shaft video information……. Thank you
Yep I did it wrong eBay driver with a extra stiff shaft and cont hit it for love or money 😢
Release pattern means a ton, got fitted literally Thursday 90 mph 6 iron speed into a C-Taper Lite S. Was shocked it was a 110g shaft but it all comes down to my feels and how I released the club. Go get fit, don't have preconceptions about what you think you need.
Miss the old KBS stuff. Not a fan of the china made versions
Still kicking myself for getting rid of the old c tapers
Difference is, tour players are fitted on an open range with proper yardages and launch monitors etc. No cartoon screens in an enclosed room where they can actually manipulate the computer readings. Seen it first hand! I was fitted on an open range and went through a fitting in an enclosed room. Found that on my fitting on the range was way more accurate than the computerized enclosed room. But that being said, I love the KBS Tour Lite shafts in my irons. I've gotten more consistent shots with them. Love this segment!
So would it be true that I am a stiff in a lighter shaft but went to a heavier shaft, I could move to a regular shaft and it would be close-ish?
56 years old here, play old school DG R300, approx 127 gram 1/2 inch shorter than standard. Still plays stiffer than many modern day stiffs but I know where they are going. At least most of the time and that’s what’s important no matter what you choose to play. Plus these old faithfuls still feel good. I’ve tested others with true intentions to change but I keep leaving the shops with these connected.
When I think of the physics involved I come up with his: GOLF SHAFT DYNAMICS
Newton’s 1st Law • Inertia
Object at rest or in motion tends to remain at rest or in motion
Newton’s 2nd Law • Force and Acceleration
Acceleration is inversely proportional to mass
Newton’s 3rd Law • Action and Reaction
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction
Inertia • property of matter – not force – forces cause changes in motion
MOI • the resistance of the clubhead to twisting affects the balls flight and can help maintain a consistent and straight shot, even if the ball is struck off-center.
SWING PHYSICS
Backswing [irrelevant]
The change of direction at the top causes a slight whip as per Law #1
Downswing
Law #1 causes flex due to acceleration. The shaft bends backwards and cannot return to normal/straight until the acceleration force is less than shaft stiffness/resistance (memory of manufactured straight)
see MYTH #1
Ball Strike
The shaft/clubface should be powered through/past the ball, meaning the shaft is bent back and therefore (face) down resulting in a delofting of the clubface.
Release
After the ball strike the acceleration force is eased up (as it comes to zero) which allows the shaft to return to straight but at this point it is irrelevant as the ball has left.
MYTH #1 : WHIP
There is no “whip” effect to increase clubhead speed(due to Law #1) because there are no other forces acting on it.
The tendency for the shaft’s memory return to straight is never enough until after the ball is struck (if power is not let off until then – and it should not be) and acceleration force is taken off.
This is not like the action of a fishing rod cast where a whip is used to accelerate the tip.
Additional Forces Effect(s) Centrifugal
Because the clubhead is not in line with the shaft (approx.60º) there is a centrifugal force on the weight of the head that pushes the toe of the head outwards/down (relative to shaft). This force is variable due to clubhead speed and is generally considered negligible/irrelevant but could result in a change of loft +/- .25 degrees.
Additional Forces Effect(s) Torque
Law #1 applies to shaft twisting also. Shafts are rated for this, ranging from 2 to 7. A shaft that twists/torques 2 or 3 degrees will result in a dispersion of 13 yards at 250 yards. Lower torque values/ratings (e.g. “1”) are more stable and controlled. Higher ratings (more twist) promote open clubfaces that create draw spin or simple mis-direction.
Additional Forces Effect(s) Air Resistance
Because a driver head is large there is a resistance to be pushed though the air at the typical speeds of a driver club. This force is variable due to clubhead speed and is generally considered negligible/irrelevant but is more of a factor with more flexible shafts.
CONCLUSION
SHAFT FLEX LEADS TO INCONSISTANCES
This is why tour Pros use XX and TX very stiff shafts. They will spend the money (making a skinny shaft very strong is complex/difficult and expensive) to avoid dispersion.
This explains why there are $65 shafts and $2,000+ shafts.
Using a golf shaft that is too flexible can lead to several issues, such as increased spin and inconsistent shot dispersion. A flexible shaft may cause the clubface to open at impact with the ball resulting in a hook or a draw, and the ball flying at a different height than intended. This can lead to inconsistent distance and low smash factor.
Shaft selection boils down to feel, and golfers should go for the shaft that feels ‘right’ and is as stiff as possible.
YOUR COMMENTS TO THIS ? [JUNE 3, 2025]
Trottie I am a 2-3 handicap and have not one custom fit club…I play 2023 P770s love them but at 49 I feel like the KBS 120 feels heavier now that I am older. Any suggestions?
I'm 6'2" and hate longer clubs…I have extremely long arms
Oh man , i wish you talked about R vs S and also about $KBS shaft