By: Golf.com | Duration: 00:14:15
Video Description
From the unruly fans at Bethpage to Europe’s historic victory, GOLF’s Dylan Dethier and Sean Zak break down the entire 2025 Ryder Cup.
Europe reclaimed the Ryder Cup Sunday at Bethpage Black, 15-13, despite a closing surge by the United States. But what does this mean for the future of the Ryder Cup? And did the envelope rule have a play in this win?
Dive in to unpack.
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Keegan showed he was a bad choice by his snippy answers at the press conference. America lost because they weren't a team. Great individuals, as displayed in the Sunday performance, but Europe dominated in the team part of the competition which demoralised and put the Americans in too much of a hole. Crowd was disgraceful, many, many people should be ashamed of their behaviour. PGA needs to look towards fines, suspending fans from events, or else we could see the end of this wonderful, unique competition
Typical of a bad loser tto bring up the envelope rule….own it. Europe's unpaid players beat the greedy American ones and team USA were only able to come back on the last day as the European guys were pretty burnt out having to put up with the disgusting so called fans. I say ban alcohol sales at American based Ryder Cups going forward, the classless galleries just can't take their drink.
Changing the Envelope Rule going forward in future Ryder Cups is being pushed by KB because he is trying to make excuses for an American team loss, blaming the greens, the course setup/condition, he even suggested he had been given misleading information. He is venting and it's not a good look at all.
The European team played well in a hostile environment and deserved to win the Ryder Cup.
First you have an MC who doesn't know, how to behave, than you complain about a rule you agreed upon prior to the start, then the PGA is not issuing any statement about the vile behaviour of the fans. The American Team got beaten the first two days because of the American fans and because the European kept their cool and did what they were supposed to do. Playing golf…
The whining about the envelope rule? How about- if you only draw at home with all the home advantage, you lose. Therefore give English the point, it's 14-14 and YOU STILL LOST😂
Just an FYI. Lowry didn't just barely make the team. He missed out on automatic qualification barely. Shane was the Captains first pick and it was always gonna be that way.
Come on, a conspiracy around Hovland's injury???
Why should he fake an injury?
I go so far and say that Viktor would have won against Harris English before the 18th hole!
I'm afraid that because of the constant loss of the USA, people won't watch the Ryder Cup anymore…
It's time the USA asked South America to join them…
There hasn't been any suspense for almost 30 years between the USA and Europe, which wins almost every time…
England was joined by Europe because they also lost almost all the time, and that no one cared anymore…
Today, there's no more competition either, so the USA needs to put aside its inflated ego and ask South America for help to balance the match again.
In fact, it's a bit like the Olympic Games… If you count the European medals and the American medals, there's no competition either…
I am embarrassed by the American crowd at Bethpage. Culture of profanity and lewd conduct was disgusting.
Bring back manners, civility, dignity and decorum. Our parents would have been disgusted with that behaviour. America and Europe signed a contract. That should be enough. But wait America has a victim complex. I think it's time to grow up and find some maturity.
Happy Gilmore 2.0
"Of course it doesn't, but maybe it does_ – the host marks himself out as a deep thinker. Next.
about the envelope rule. if all matches are made then total of points is 28 and the rule is when both sides have same points (14 points each) then he who has the cup keeps it. And of course if one side has more than Half (14,5 or more) then the cup is his. If one match is not made then envelope rule gives 0,5 point to each side, … and this does NOT change the basic rule, meaning if instead you simply forget this match which has not been done then the rule remains as before but with a total points of 27 = when both sides have same points (13,5 points each) then he who has the cup keeps it. And of course if one side has more (14 or more) then the cup is his. A rule giving the point to the non injured would certainly have changed the result, but it would surely also shoot to US fans US fans "if you want the cup, you just have to injure enough European players …with their behavior as all saw, who bets they would never do it ? so, would changing this envelop rule really be good for golf …. Or a strong incentive for fans' behavior far worse than at bethpage ???
Losers
Is it me, the two teams seem so different… USA team seems like they don’t like each other… Europeans seem like they’re all good friends and happy to be playing together…
We have Seve for inspiration and passion Americans don’t have anybody where is tiger when the team needs him
Long Island filth
After day 1 keegan failed to see that his rookies were gonna earn more points than his dream team should not have played them on 1 of the 2nd day sessions. And I'm scottish lol. Spaun Griffin and Young were fantastic should have played more
They both played the same course same greens and same conditions. The better team won 🏆 Very Trump like to make excuses.
All this at a Public Golf Course with a few golf courses built with Depression Era recovery in mind. A new sign needs to go next to the famous WARNING sign. SPORTSMANSHIP.
This video is gold.
How would having alternates be any better?
Firstly, it would be a mixed experience for the alternates as the only way to play would be at the misfortune of your team mate. But most likely, you'd just sit there and watch, continually reminded that you were painfully close to qualifying, but not close enough.
Secondly, Dishonest team captains could simply pull their worst player with a bs injury excuse and replace them with the alternate. So it would be equally as fair or easy to game as the current envelope system.
And let's not forget, if European vice captain Alex Noren had been allowed to replace Hovland, he would probably have beaten Harris.